The Untruths, How old are The Boys? Missing Toddlers California City, Bakersfield California Orrin and Orson, Classic and Cincere

 

Facts about the boys:

a timeline of their childhoods, so far

These are the original Photos released. The reward was offered by local merchants and businesses

You Do The Math!

These two photos below, are probably the most recent photos available , the photos are undated, and  a bit of a mystery to me, the family was not forthcoming with dated photos, this  what I consider to be fairly pertinent information, considering you may want people to be on the look out for your two missing baby boys and so they need accurate photos of the boys to identify them. Or people will be seeing them everywhere.

In my opinion this is a big red flag. It has been for many but I was never able to unpacked why it was or could be an issue until now. I hate math, I think in patterns and recognize patterns easily and quickly, the issue with that is, you're not always immediately able to name or label a pattern when you recognize it's presence, it needs to persist, like a serial killer, leaving marks on the wall. Those are my math skills, the symbols and order of operations of doing the math and calling them all by name are not my best....I don't shine there just sayin'

For myself, I needed to unpack all the information, like a kindergarten teacher so I could bring light to a time line of when they went missing. And a strangely persistent pattern.

 

They told us that the boys were Three and Four years old. 

For a three and four year old six months, three months, two months, is a huge amount of time for a really significant, appearance changing, growth spurt. We measure toddler hood in months for a reason, months are significant!

It had been 5 and 6 months since the boys' birthdays. 

The boys would have been, and appeared to be, closer to 4 and 5 years old, than 3 and 4 years old and they would have looked like it too.

I did a little facebook poll, the consensus was that Orrin looks like he is almost 5 years old in this photo. People were a little divided on Orson's age but 3 out of four said he is probably close to 3 1/2

Orrin west: DOB Aug 4, 2016

August 2017 he turned 1

August of 2018 he turned 2

August of 2019 he turned 3

he was 4 in August of 2020

he will be 5 in August, 2021

Orson West: DOB June 11 2017

June 11 2018 he turned 1

June 2019 he turned 2

He turned 3 in June of 2020

he will be 4 in June of 2021

I haven't been able to find an exact date for the above photos, if anyone knows, please let me know. I know they are not from late 2019, and they came as undated / updated photos for posters and flyers

These are the first photos released to the public for identifying the boys, they are from the Fall of 2019. The photo of the baby is captioned. Thanksgiving By The Numbers 2019

And that is definitely NOT the face of a 3 year old

And Orrin's face in the photo is not the face of a 4 year old.
Who doesn't take pictures of their growing children for a whole year?

the reward money has gone up quite a bit but the photos are still at least a year old.

These are the first photos given to the public, by their Uncle. The one of Orson, the baby is definitely from November 2019, it is captioned Thanksgiving By the numbers

1- mom

1- dad

1-grandmother

1- stepfather

2- brothers

6- nephews

3- aunts

17- cousins  

5- days 

2- states

2- cities

The first foster mother, said she had the boys for a year. She also said:

the birth mother lost custody of them when the baby was 11 days old, the older child was already in foster care while she was pregnant.

from the news and family statements, the older boy had been injured while he was in the care of a friend or family, while the mother was at work and she took him to the hospital and Dr.'s are required to report anything that looks like child abuse.  

So they ended up in foster care, the boys did not go missing while in her care though and we're not going to cross examine her, she is not the last person to see them. 

It has been stated that while the boys were in foster care the birth mother and the father had supervised visits,  and according to the foster mother, "...had built a bond with one another, and it seems like it added more fuel to the fire."

CPS removed the boys from her home in April of 2018 and they were placed with the Wests. While being fostered by the Wests the birth mother (and possibly the father) was allowed supervised visitation, she still had parental rights, and could ask about their care and suggest unmet needs etc. She said they seemed to be hungry, loosing weight, sad, and they needed their hair cared for. Her instincts told her something wasn't right 

Orson was taken 11 days after birth and placed in foster care along with his brother, and they were in the first foster home for most of 1 year, 

So I would approximate the above photos were taken sometime between June of 2017 (DOB)  and  December of 2017

This photo shown below, of Orrin / Cincere, and Santa is definitely from Dec.

He's not 4 months old here, and his mother was not allowed to see him in December, 2018, and the foster parents (the Wests) were not allowed to post photos  of the boys to social media until after April of 2019.  So the photo has to be from Dec 2017

These are approximations, not exact dates. None of the photos on the internet seem to have dates on them

In April of 2018, Orson / Classic, would be  10 months old. That's  when the Wests got them, probably not quite walking on his own yet. 

And Orrin would have been 

16 months old in April of 2018

24 months old in August of 2018

 

(his baby brother was (how many months?)  premature and was kept in NICU for some time) Birthdates are confirmed so that is where there would be a little  discrepancy. 

 By Dec 2018 he was 2 years and 4 months

From a report by KGET.com 's Perla Shaheen

The last time Dean(the birth mother) saw her boys was at the end of 2018. That year, 34-year-old Trezell West and 31-year-old Jacqueline West became the boys’ foster parents. The Wests, then living in Bakersfield, adopted them in 2019, and renamed them Orrin and Orson West. The West family already had four other kids, two biological and two adopted. They moved to California City the next year, and, on December 21st – 2020.

https://www.kget.com/news/local-news/100-days-missing-what-weve-learned-since-orrin-and-orson-west-disappeared/

The last time the biological mother was allowed to see them was before Dec 2018 , she says that in 2018 she was denied a request to give them Christmas presents. Prior to that, from her statement, she had been allowed supervised visitation of the boys, between April and December, while they were in the care of the Wests until late 2018.

They were fostered for approximately a year with Jacqueline and Trezell, before being adopted in

 April 2019 that would make them , almost 2 and almost 3 years old

At the time of their adoption

In April of 2019

Orrin / Cincere was 2 years and 8 months old

Orrin / Cincere, between 2 years and 3 years old

Orson / Classic was 1 year and 10 months old

Note: Foster parents are not allowed to post images of foster children to social media, so the photo below would have to have been taken after, April 2019

Orrin next to adoptive grandfather Phillip West, Orrin would be almost 3, and Orson in the high chair, almost 2

Orrin looks very protective of his baby brother, he's already learned the only thing, the only person, who is really his, the only constant, is his baby brother. At this time they were not named Orrin and Orson, they were named Classic and Cincere, names given them by their birth parents. Their names were changed in 2019 when they were adopted. How do you change a child's name after calling them by their birth name for a year, were they not confused enough by that time? Were they so dehumanized and objectified from the beginning of their relationship with the Wests? Their autonomy was destroyed by these people with this act  when they took "ownership" of them would they ever be able to create boundaries for themselves? 

again I don't have a date for the above photo from my own knowledge of children, and tons of little boys have been under my wings,  they look to be about 3 and 2 years old, and in 2019 that would have been their ages.

ABC, National news says it is an undated photo, and yet refers to them as 3 and 4 years old, this "news" came out 

Feb 6, 2021  at that time they were, 3 years and 8 months, and 4 years and 7 months old.  Almost 4 and 5

The news report was a result of an official statement from the extended adoptive family and only because the extended adoptive family, were angry that people were angry at them, showing up at their home and leaving comments on line asking what the heck is going on here!? 

 I see diapers, most kids are potty trained by 18 months or earlier, some later lot's of parents continue to carry a diaper bag for just in case accidents happen, and something to drink, a little snack, some wet wipes for sticky little hands and faces. They are dressed warmly, they began to foster the boys by April 2018, is it cold in Bakersfield in April?  When does it begin to get cold?

In April of 2018 when the boys were first put in the care of the Wests, they would have been  

Orrin,  1 year and 8 months old

and 

Orson,  8 months old 

What I'm trying to make sense of here is the timeline. The boys would have been almost 4 and almost 5 when they were reported missing. and no one other than the immediate family has seen them neighbors, and even the grandmother slipped up and said there were no new photos because the family had not been together due to covid

 So the Uncle Jamal Watkins, half brother of Trezell West began a personal damage control campaign from Washington DC to distance himself and the rest of the family from his brother's troubles

https://findourboys2021.medium.com/find-our-missing-boys-orrin-and-orson-west-official-west-family-statement-3c753a565fa

and made an appearance on Good Morning America and stated:

"It is misguided to blame uncles and aunts and grandparents for children who are missing that we love and care about and are trying to find," Watkins said.

Concerned  people were outraged at the the adoptive parents. Less than a week after being reported missing the police suspected foul play and had served several search warrants, and had questioned the parents multiple times as well. The police stated that neighbors said they had not seen any children at the house ever.  He later retracted that statement and said that one neighbor had reported seeing children but could not identify which children they had seen or whose they were. 

And the investigation, had nothing to go on. 

California City Police give update on missing West Boys Dec 29, 2020

https://youtu.be/-wjX7CTN5NY

 It was obvious they were lying about something and the birth family and the internet youtube, true crime sleuths were determined to find out what.  Knowing they had lied in their interview, knowing the photos were old and should be updated to most recent. By January 4th a recording from a CCTV camera at the neighbor's house with a perfect view of the back yard had been shown, and everyone knew they had not searched for the boys for more than a few minutes, that they had not searched the back yard at all, that the boys were not seen in the back yard anywhere near the gate, that the adoptive mother had not searched at all, that the fields next to the house were not searched, the neighbors were not alerted, no doors knocked on. And the timeline Trezell provided in his interview which actually seemed to "match" his actions seen on CCTV was a poorly rehearsed show for the CCTV cameras,  to establish an alibi and prove parental duty of care. 

In tort law, a duty of care is a legal obligation which is imposed on an individual, requiring adherence to a standard of reasonable care while performing any acts that could foreseeably harm others. It is the first element that must be established to proceed with an action in negligence.

The Tort Duty of Parents to Protect Minor Children

Does the

parent, upon learning of the crisis, have a duty to exercise reasonable care

to avert the harm or render assistance by reason of the parent-child

relationship?

The extended adoptive family's strange behavior added more fuel to the fire,  refusing to address the public in any way, putting their arms out the door to take pictures, or setting up a camera on a tripod next to the fence to record the encounters when biological family members stood in protest outside their house demanding answers. 

Calling the police on groups of people, claiming they were being threatened, and talking in circles, when asked about the boys. They refused to search for the boys,  did not seem to be truly concerned about the boys! they were more concerned with their reputations and their privacy, Where are the boys miss Wanda?  

Wanda was talking to the bystanders, and her son tries too drag her away, she stood her ground so he went inside to get the camera and tripod. 

The adoptive father and Mother had moved back to Bakersfield, and at least Trezell was living in the his parent's home there were rumors about the couple's relationship being in trouble

The above photos were taken by a freelance reporter / investigator. As Trezell and his father return home from a stroll through the neighborhood with Trezell's  dog

Is this normal behavior for a family who has just  lost 2 young boys and claim to have no idea of their whereabouts? They don't come outside for prayer vigils, or to help search for their boys. They act like they are in a battle for their lives, and not the lives of 2 innocent children. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-missing-toddlers-speak-public-targets/story?id=75724907

California City Missing Toddlers, Adoptive Parents Interview and Outcry from the Birth Parents of Orrin and Orson, West, Birth Names Classic and Cincere: A Transcript

 

https://youtu.be/0Rh4ORnYi4I

Most of the news videos on Youtube are edited , parts have been left out, background noise blocked out, So I had to watch several versions of them to get a transcript as accurate as I could. I wanted to specifically know what was being said in the background by the biological family and other bystanders. Their reaction to the situation is important, considering, the second place anyone would look is at the birth parents. For my own sanity, I needed to either clear their name (for me) or resign myself to the possibility, they could have the kids. Feel free to leave comments about what you think. What is your impression?

DECEMBER 23, 2020, the boys are 2 days missing

The Media Wants a Story, The Birth Family want answers

This interview was done reluctantly by their own words, the adoptive mother waggling and pointing her finger in a dismissive swoop at the Biological family, says " that's one of the reasons why we actually didn't want to do this (pointing at the Birth Family as they cry and demand answers to an explanation that makes no sense at all)

The crowd around the news interview included the Biological father and mother, aunts, uncles and cousins, and a former foster mother of the 2 boys, a  neighbors and others. 

 All  the bystanders began to realize the adoptive parents were lying and may have done the unthinkable to the boys,  and the biological family became agitated and asked very sternly for more clarity. It got pretty heated, passionate and very emotional. And the adoptive parents stood swaying, clutching themselves, nodding their heads and saying in a low voice , we understand, we understand, ... 

Link to the best version  I could find, It is not the original copy or poster, showing the whole 13 minute interview and encounter with no editing, and no noise reduction in the back ground as far as I can tell, is below. If you  are boots on the ground and you own the original of this video feel free to contact me so I can give you credit and share a link. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0A9QraASs8&t=466s

Here is the statement as best as I could transcribe, don't worry about inflection while reading, there was no emotion other than frustration, so read it as if you don't want to read it, lots of sighing and deep breaths in and sharp blows out through flared nostrils. If you allow your aloof teenager to read the parent's parts, it's probably perfect

   A PUBLIC STATEMENT: Dec 23rd, 2020

The couple, Trezell and Jacqueline West, stands in front of reporters and cameras and microphones, 

Trezell turns slightly in Jacqueline's direction and mutters quietly, "you go first"

Jacqueline begins:

uh,... we just want to thank everyone in the community for all the hel'-support we've seen, we've felt so helpless, and seeing everybody out here really looking and helping out really means a lot.

When the reporter asks, "tell us what happened the night the boys went missing", 

the Adoptive Father, Trezell breathes in a deep sigh, groans, leans his upper torso back, with his arms tight across his chest and tightly tucked under his arms, a little like he's been body checked in slow motion, or he's an annoyed teenager being asked where he's been and why he smells like pot.
He speaks, in slow staccato rhythm reciting a bullet point list of short incomplete sentences, he has told over and over again until he is blue in the face.... 

The adoptive father, Trezell West  held his hands tight under his arms and across his chest for the entire 13-14 minute interview, he gestured with his head and eyes when referring to places around the house that he had allegedly searched for the boys. His wife Jacqueline, for most of the interview, swayed back and forth like a little girl in trouble trying to talk her way out of it. Like she's wearing momma's lipstick all over her face and denying she ever touched it, and she always stands just slightly behind him

Trezell: 

uhhhg......"okay," 

Jacqueline: sighs and exclaims, almost quietly "ohhh, from our yard" or "oh my god"(?)

Trezell: 

'kay,

" it was cold,..

I was going to make a fire.

There's a lot of wood in this, this area right here, 

next to our house.

I open up the back gate,

I'm throwing wood, 

bring it in side the house. 

My wife's inside,

she's actually wrapping gifts,

so we thought...... 

it's.....it'd be  

a good idea to, ...

let our youngest 2... 

go outside, and let them 

play with chalk on the back patio. 

Do not let them go on the dirt in the back yard, 

keep them close.

They was playin with chalk,

I came in the house,

I saw them there,

went in the house, 

came back out,

I didn't see them now, 

I immediately went back in, asked my wife did she see the boys? she said, no, that they should be outside playing with chalk. I said well..  I didn't see them, 

so I came outside, and I started to search,

I searched the back yard

I searched the whole thing,

I realized that I left the gate opened

 and I panicked, I, 

came inside the house, 

searched the house, 

me and my wife,

Once That, ,,,, 

that didn't pan out, 

I got in the van, 

I looked down the street,

both directions

it was gettin' dark, gettin' cold

and I got in the van and I hit a bunch of corners,

I went down this street, I turned my light on,

I searched, I searched, I called their names.

Talked to a gentleman on the street on that side over there, he didn't see them

so then I came home and I told my wife we gotta call the cops, uh, it's gettin dark 

and I need help,

we gotta get going,

so I called the cops. 

the cops came, 

the first thing they did was tell us to stay in the house,

so they could get a hold of us, 

and they had us just sitting there.

and we wanted to keep searching 

but everybody came out in droves! and I wanted to thank you guys that night but we couldn't go outside, (he is talking to the crowd of biological family and friends and neighbors)

Jacqueline: the cops, they told us the best are out here

Trezell:  the best are out here searchin, and we appreciate it and nobody ever could tel-we could never talk to anybody, and that was the issue. 

J: We just want to thank everybody really, a-and

T: really, thank God (or thank you guys)! 

J: so please if anybody has seen them, please call somebody now

T: If if, Call the cops, telephone, call California city police department, call them, let them know what you've seen, if you've seen anything. 

Our boys, they.....they are going to be,....rambunctious OKAY? Uggggh!

They are going to be here, in this area and I would really like to go in the houses but it's not because I want to invade peoples' privacy, I just want to know if...

Jacqueline interjects: Make sure

Trezell redirects himself: make sure, that's it. 

When asked by a reporter about the biological mother (who was present in the crowd) thinking there was foul play involved, 

Reporter: "...she thinks that you guys did something"

Jacqueline: nnn-that's understandable

Trezell: that's understandable, I would think the same thing

J: Yep, 

T: I mean that's exactly the point and , if we can find our, find our  babies well guess what? that's a no, and that's all I want is to find our babies, that's it,

And I talked to her (biological mother) this morning and I really wanted to tell her during that time(?) I am completely sorry because (turns his head toward the bio mother) we were entrusted with her children,

and they came to us

and they became

our children, 

we named them, 

they are

our children

and so we want them back,

so please if you just get back on your, what you guys are doing, we should be able to get a hold of somebody but they took all of our tech, so they  wanted to I guess, I, just, rule us out which makes sense, it's part of the investigation (mumbles under his breath) sooo that's pretty much it.

Female reporter Asks if they had talked to the police all night last night and allowed the police to search?

reporter: what did, did, so, you guys willfully gave them....

Jacqueline: shaking head as if to say no, but saying yes

Jacqueline: yes, everything!

Reporter: your technology?

Trezell interjects: YES! 

reporter: the car?...

Trezell: yes. 

reporter: how did they get a search warrant?

Trezell:  I, I, I don't see why they got one, but they got one

we would'a let them take anything, we would have let them take  everything, we let them come in and search with us, we asked them to come inside

Reporter:

What did they take?

Trezell: Just Tech, and that's it. like our phones. that's it.

Reporter: From the house?

As a large white box truck drives by it catches their attention and at the same time a biological  family member (later identified as an auntie) asks him something about not searching for the boys with the rest of the searchers. 

Trezell asks the reporter if he should answer that.

 Reporter says "answer it for us"

Trezell: okay, so, ...it, it took 'em, it took eh....I don't even know...okay I guess...

Jacqueline: (picking up the slack)

yeh, we truly felt like we needed to be out here, we did. uh, Again, we were told the best are out here looking already. Just stay put, they had more questions, there was literally a cop with us the whole time in there

Trezell: they had us sitting down,

 we asked can we go help?

they had us sit down,

no, we've got the best out there. 

J: interjects: so it's not like I want you guys thinking, we didn't try, we actually looked before we called the police. 

More questions from a different reporter who asks

at what time did you guys notice your kids went missing?  and at what time were they reported missing to the police?

T: It was about, I believe, I think, it was about, 4:30 goin on 5 it was gettin dark like I said

Jacqueline interjects: 5 ish

Trezell corrects himself: 5 ish  that's about it, that's, that's when, everything played out

reporter: when did you guys call the police to report them missing?

 Trezell starts: I drove...

Jacqueline: interrupts him, almost nudging him, leaning in close and she says with a little urgency, while twirling her hand in the air to indicate the search area

Jacqueline: After we searched...

Trezell: yeh

Jacqueline: ...a little bit, around here, it was dark so we, we definitely were, we got worried

Reporter: would you say within an hour or a couple of hours?

Trezell: no! it was within minutes of us gettin' finished with our search, within minutes

Reporter: What do you guys want people at home to understand about this situation?

Jacqueline: We're going through it, it's difficult, I mean everybody is making their own abssum abssumptio, conclu assumptions

Trezell: Quietly to Jacqueline: assumptions

Jacqueline: you know, their own conclusions, they don't know any thing. 

We don't, 

we're not sure, exac,

 like everything, we're not sure, 

we said what we knew, 

and if anybody has seen them,

ugh or anything. please call the police department. ( near whispered "police department" with her head down)

Female reporter asks: Could you guys provide pictures if you have any do you have any? more recent photos?(paraphrased by me)

Jacqueline:  I have older pictures, all my newest were on my phone.

Male Reporter:

...what kind of boys are these? tell us about the boys.

Trezell: almost jumps as he says, they're playful, they're rambunctious, and they, they do love to wrestle, they do kind of like to get rough with each other. 

Jacqueline interjects: They're kids.

Trezell: nods: they're kids...

Of course they would love to go out, but we were- but so- during the pandemic, we wasn't tryin to go, you know, out, here. And so we stayed inside

Auntie asks: did you guys ever go out and search?

T and J answer together: yes, yes we did. yes, That's what I'm sayin'

Auntie: what time did they come up missin'?

Trezell: They came up missing right before it got dark, then we called I, I, I searched our property, I even drove around the whole, this neighborhood right here, I even talked to a gentleman on that side, on one of those streets over there, I said did you see my, did you see some little black kids?

Male voice from the crowd, asks: "so you drove that way?" 

Trezell: that's the direction I was gonna come but when I came back home, I decided to call the cops cause it was dark.  They couldn't have got away that fast!

Aunt interrupts and asks why they would leave them out side, "when there was 2 of you to watch them." It gets a little heated,

Trezell counters her with, they were in the back yard, I left the gate open,

Reporter asks: Jacqueline, as a mother, your intuition, you said you feel like they're in this area,...what do you think happened to your boys? Do you think someone took them? do you think they're lost?

Jacqueline: yeh I definitely, know they're not walking around, they're not that kind, they're, they do not, just roam around, you know, these patches, they definitely, I think, definitely, would have been picked up or something

Trezell: That's, that's my assumption

Female 1 (same female as before) from the crowd, off camera, asks: have they taken off from the yard before? 

Trezell and J answer together: No. Nope

Female: they've never taken off on you before?

T and J: no!

female(2) : you guys are new to cal city right?

T and J answer: yep, 

female(2) : how long have you guys been living here?

T: just 3 months

Biological Father: ya'll say ya'll went looking for them kids and y'all got neighbors say you ain't even come out here looking for no kids!

J: we we,

T: the neighbors weren't out here

J: we were looking,

T: we were lookin'

Bio Father: yeh, I'm just saying brother, that's crazy man I got kids of my own, them little boys was raised with my Biological family, I don't leave kids outside,.. a 3 and 4 year old? 

Jacqueline: blurts: where do you live?

Trezell: I understand, they were outside in the back yard and I was watching them

Auntie: I have 9 kids and I- there's no way I'm gonna  leave my kids unattended not even for a minute

Another male(#2) possibly a biological relative: 

...3 and 4 year olds,? like, you sit here, you sit here, where's your heart bro? you don't look like you're worried man! you too calm bro you acting like nothin' happened you don't make no sense

Jacqueline interjects:  we get that! we get it!

we feel it!

Auntie: okay ya'll know ya'll fixin' to go inside the house right? ya'll are foster parents, right?

T: no we're adoptive parents

A: okay ya'll adopted them, okay,

shut the gate! 

go in the house,

why did it take both of ya'll to go in the house, and leave them outside by theyself?

T: I understand

A: and ya'll know the gate was open!

 male #2

A Male: why haven't ya'll been out here looking with the people that's out here looking for them? 

J: frustrated mumbles we're, oh my goodness...   

we already said that

T: we all ready said, we all ready told it on camera

J: we already said that, 

Auntie: sad angry yelling: I didn't see no cameras last night!,

T: no

A: sad angry yelling: I didn't even see y'all out here prayin' with them people

Ya'll supposed to take care of my nephews!

Not this! this is Not supposed to happen!

T: I understand,

A: Ya'll are supposed to take care of my nephews!

T: I understand

Reporter interrupts, prompting: for those who's  watching at the moment who knows anything or, or, if you, or somebody who has these kids, if they're watching, what is your message to them?

T: the message has always been, as mu'.. as, as soon as possible, call the California City Police Department, and please bring our babies home, and that's that

J: that's one of the reasons why we actually didn't want to do this

T: this is the reason why

J: the bio families

T: we were under orders to stay in the house, and stay because they're gonna need to contact us, and we could not, we could not go out side, and that was the issue, and that was the issue, we were under orders, by the cops to stay home in the house, and let the, let the professionals look, 

female1: but you just said that they was your children, if they were your children regardless of what somebody told you, wouldn't you want to go look for them? 

T: well we had cops actually posted in the front door right there

female1:  you know how cold it is at night? (inaudible)

T: we totally understand,

J: we totally understand, If you guys please, if you guys actually have that question you should ask the police officer 

female1:  I'm just looking at this situation but do you see how it seems? It's that

J: yes

T: yes

female1: it's that the kids was left unattended and you guys went in the house and then the kids disappeared. 

it's just weird 

Auntie: off camera, repeating 2 or 3 times, something about 

why'd THIS person call the police? 

T:  to female1: exactly, and that's what we're tryin to figure out

female1:  No!, How? It doesn't make sense? How did they disappear? how did they go out? you guys had the house supervised already and my question is why were they the only 2 children outside? where were the rest of the kids?

T: rest of the kids were with grandma

female1: with who?

T: they left, they went on vacation

female1:  so they(Orrin and Orson) didn't?

T: no, because they're too young, we watched them, and it turns out that, ...that happened. 

female 2 is buying none of it! asks again yelling angrily and  loudly "why did THIS person call the police?" (possibly also said: My great nephew!)

J: taking control of the situation: please!... of course,...

 Reporter interrupts: please just quickly before we forget, the spelling of both your names first and last both of you guys

Auntie: shouts through her pain, No fucking emotion! None!

Trezell to reporter: So, ugh, shuuzzz, say that again?

R: just first and last names

T: ugh spelling of who or what?

R uh spelling of just your first and last name

J: our names. sure sure…

T: Trezell West is T R E Z E L L, West

R: West? 

T: yes

R: to Jacqueline, and uh for you?

J: J a c q u e l i n e, 

R: say that again

J: j a c q u e l a/i? n e

R: West?

J: Yes

reporter female: I guess we'll let you go, sorry about all the... (Inaudible) 

Trezell and Jacqueline, return to their house and the crowd buzzes with crying, sobbing,  and sounds and words of anger and disbelief. 

This is the one and only time the adoptive parents have made any kind of public statement about the missing boys.

 What is your impression? 

Were they being deceptive? 

Dose it seem like they hurt the children?

Are the biological family involved with the disappearance, as some speculate could be the case? 

Next I'll look at the patterns of deception and the out right lies:

I took a course with Paul Eckman several years ago and passed with a 98% accuracy on the first try, and it saved my life, to know that what I felt were lies, were actually lies, so I'm going to do my own take on it. It's just opinion based on observation, and pattern recognition. Many other analysts have done forensic examinations of the statement, and some body language experts have chimed in as well. I don't know how deeply they observed the interview before giving their analysis, to make a guest appearance on a youtube video. I do know I've watched so many times, it's a part of me now. :( 

 
Hear me out, just trying to make sense of it all.....

Where are the boys?

Missing California City Boys Orrin and Orson West also known as Classic and Cincere

 

Where are these boys!?

Hello old blog, it's nice to see you again.  I have been following this case of the missing toddlers from Bakersfield, and California City, California  from the beginning. I was so full of angst from the elections and the riots, and the capitol being stormed I had to jump into something to distract and somehow I stumbled on a case of  2 little boys.

Orrin (Cincere) is the oldest he was  4 years and 5 months when reported missing,  

and 

Orson (Classic) is the baby, he was 3  years and 6 months old at the time they were reported missing. 

Today they would be 4 years and 9 months, and 3 years and 10 months respectively.

So they are nearly 4 and 5 years old now

those months of rapid growth in a young child can make a difference in their looks

The photos on the left were eventually given as updated images of the boys to use for flyers and other missing children medium.

these were the original photos of the boys released on the missing person site and released to news media. at least one of them is from late 2019

The boys had been recently adopted in April of 2020, and reported missing from their back yard by their parents On December 21 of 2020. They were reported missing in the sprawling desert town of California City CA.  A big city with low population, just north of Los Angeles. It is known as the largest city in California in land mass. The neighborhood the Wests live in is pretty isolated and baron especially during the winter months, it seems the landscape is tumble weeds, dried sage brush and tons of sand. 

This is the neighborhood where the boys allegedly lived from September of 2020 until Dec of 2020

Two adorable little boys named by their birth mother as Cincere and Classic, seemingly, allegedly, just disappeared. The adoptive parents Trezell and Jacqueline West, in their one and only public interview, on Dec 23,  2 days after the boys went missing, said the boys were playing in the back yard with chalk on the cement slab of a small patio, and some how the boys disappeared 

It was a cold evening, the sun was going down,  the shadows were long, it was getting dark,  

This is the backyard of the house. The boys were allegedly playing on the small patio near the house, with the pink arrow, the gate is where the other pink arrow is, at the end of the paved driveway leading to a 2nd garage. 

I added little foot prints to show how many foot prints two little clumsy toddlers might be able to make on an adventure through the back gate, and that is the shortest leg of the journey if they had actually wandered off.

This is the back gate the boys allegedly wandered through or were taken from. Allegedly it was left open while the kids were unattended for a few minutes

No foot prints were found, anywhere in the yard or out the gate, and no scent of the boys was detected by the search dogs used to aid the search the night they were reported missing. No tire tracks in the adjacent field, and no adult foot prints indicating an abduction. 

DECEMBER 21, 2020:

The night they went missing, the police were called and the neighbors came out in a panic, the adoptive parents stayed in the house, the neighbors and police searched the house and the yard and adjacent fields for hours, there were dogs and heat detecting helicopters brought in to search the surrounding area, the boys couldn't have gotten far on foot, yet there was no trace of them, no little foot prints leading out, no car tire tracks leading to the gate, or adult (abductor) foot prints inside the gate or out. 

This is a closer look at the neighborhood, the red marker is the house, the blue green areas are the sandy desert lots next to the house, empty, barren, littered with garbage and dried brush. The only way to get out of that lot is to go toward the front of the house or the street in front. All lot's with homes have high privacy fences, with no access from the rear. 

DECEMBER 22, 2020

The next day  Dec 22, the search continued with the sun up and neighbors and others who had heard what had happened on the news came to help. By mid day The California city Police Department (CCPD)  FBI, and Bakersfield Police Department (BPD) came back with a search warrant and went to the door with guns drawn.  The search continued for the rest of the day and into the night searching the adjacent desert lots and neighborhood streets, up to a mile out on foot, with volunteers, FBI, BPD, and CCPD. Neighbors where questioned and some videos from security cameras were said to have been collected from neighbors that might shed light on what happened to the boys.  Large bags were removed from the home, the couple were taken in for questioning by the FBI but were not arrested or detained, or interrogated they went voluntarily.
Search and rescue K-9s were brought in and stopped at the interior doors indicating that the children, never left the house, from any door.

The family's van was towed away to be gone over with a fine tooth comb. 

The lack of physical forensic evidence inside the house indicating that that the scent of children was in the house, prompted the use of cadaver dogs, which also found nothing inside or out of the house or in the nearby fields. Several more searches were made, inside the house and out, including a total excavation of the back yard, by the FBI, and ground penetrating radar detection in the fields next to the house. The Police Chief of Kern County, Jon Walker,  said in more than one interview that he suspected foul play, and had no evidence of it, and no evidence at all that the children left the house without being carried. He stated that the neighbors said they had never seen ANY children at the house. Later that statement was amended to, 1 neighbor had seen children but could not identify which ones or whose they were. In a later interview Chief stated that there was no indication that there ever were, any of the children in that house, inside or out. There were and currently are no suspects and everyone, and no one, is a POI

NOTE: there were 2 biological children, 2 adopted (the missing) and 2 other adopted children supposed to be  living with the Wests at the time. The two adopted children that are not missing, were adopted before the 2 that went missing, or, 3 were adopted at the same time. Public statements made by adoptive family members are a little confusing.  

In the crowd were neighbors, and freelance journalists recording the scene the night of the 2nd search on Dec 22.  Someone livestreamed video of the search on Facebook until they had to switch off cameras with another friend, because the battery ran out, or she had used her time limit on Facebook for live streaming. These were locals, someone who knew someone and so on, saw the stream and realized who the missing boys were, and the Biological mother and father and their families were notified. According to a family member of the Biological mother, a group of family members, aunts, uncles, nieces, all were making arrangements to get to the search site but they were unable to make it there in time and planned for the next day to go (23rd). In a video from the site of the search, posted on Dec 22, by a quite reputable and dedicated youtuber and freelance journalist AV News Crew,  Matt, Stated that "the bio parents are on their way here".

Neither the adoptive family nor their rather large extended family were ever seen to be searching or supporting any effort to find the boys, they seemed to be fine keeping their mouths shut and staying out of it. (more on that later). 

DECEMBER 23, 2020, the boys are 2 days missing

The Media Wants a Story....

https://www.turnto23.com/news/missing-persons/new-details-in-the-disappearance-of-toddlers-orson-and-orrin-west